12 step programs ineffective?
by Admin
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Author: Dana D D
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:42 pm
Read this and agree with most of what the author says. He does have references to his source material linked at the end. Some of his writing is highly opinionated against 12 stepping. I like the part at the end where he gives his steps
"Make up some new steps, like:
1. I admit that drinking and smoking has gotten to be a real drag, and I am suffering so much that it isn’t any fun any more.
2. I quit, and I’m staying quit forever.
3. Some of my friends may help me occasionally, but I’m mainly going to count on myself.
4. Whenever I am tempted to relapse, I will think about step one again, and remember why I quit in the first place. I will also remember what happened the last time I relapsed."
I personally made a decision to quit. I have been to many 12 step meetings in the past. I have read the big book and the NA book. I believe in God, Jesus, and praying. That has given me strength not AA or NA neither of which made me quit. It was a personal decision based on things that resemble his made up steps. I like my new Sub doctor but do not agree that I should have to do any step work. I am being told to do it. I think that it should be an individual choice. I intend on using people here for support plus I also have strong family support and church support people. I think that is enough. Sorry Doc, I am not powerless over Drug addiction. I will never admit to being powerless because I have a choice. I have the right to choose and choose not to pickup. I choose to use my OWN steps
which are almost exactly like his steps.
DO NOT get me wrong to each his own. If you can do step work and stay sober GREAT. If you use AA and NA and they work good for you, THAT is awesome. The whole point of all of this is staying sober. THAT is all that matters.
Later
Dana
Clean since 7/22/11 on Sub 8mg 2x day
12 step programs ineffective?
by Admin
Call 1 (888) 460-6556 to speak with a counselor.
Author: Dana D D
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:42 pm
Read this and agree with most of what the author says. He does have references to his source material linked at the end. Some of his writing is highly opinionated against 12 stepping. I like the part at the end where he gives his steps
"Make up some new steps, like:
1. I admit that drinking and smoking has gotten to be a real drag, and I am suffering so much that it isn’t any fun any more.
2. I quit, and I’m staying quit forever.
3. Some of my friends may help me occasionally, but I’m mainly going to count on myself.
4. Whenever I am tempted to relapse, I will think about step one again, and remember why I quit in the first place. I will also remember what happened the last time I relapsed."
I personally made a decision to quit. I have been to many 12 step meetings in the past. I have read the big book and the NA book. I believe in God, Jesus, and praying. That has given me strength not AA or NA neither of which made me quit. It was a personal decision based on things that resemble his made up steps. I like my new Sub doctor but do not agree that I should have to do any step work. I am being told to do it. I think that it should be an individual choice. I intend on using people here for support plus I also have strong family support and church support people. I think that is enough. Sorry Doc, I am not powerless over Drug addiction. I will never admit to being powerless because I have a choice. I have the right to choose and choose not to pickup. I choose to use my OWN steps
which are almost exactly like his steps.
DO NOT get me wrong to each his own. If you can do step work and stay sober GREAT. If you use AA and NA and they work good for you, THAT is awesome. The whole point of all of this is staying sober. THAT is all that matters.
Later
Dana
Clean since 7/22/11 on Sub 8mg 2x day