Author: Ironic
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:32 am
| hatmaker510 wrote: |
| I’m sorry, but I disagree. I’ve said nothing that doesn’t respect the decisions of anyone else. Why does discussing a program and why it doesn’t fit my needs equate to not respecting another person’s decisions? Other than when I said, "Those are your beliefs, Painter.", I never mentioned your name. I was talking about THE PROGRAM. Yet you are taking people’s discussion about the program to mean something personal. It’s not. We’ve always discussed these programs peacefully. This is the first time anyone has made any accusations that people weren’t respecting someone’s decisions. |
I thought everyone was being pretty decent. I mean, the title says "Do 12 Step Programs Really Work?" When you saw that, weren’t you all kind of expecting a debate? This is a contentious issue and it’s hard to cite professionals bc SO MANY of the studies done on AA aren’t legit. They are paid for by AA trustees, and/or they are not blind (and who goes into which group is hand-picked), and/or they are not longitudinal.
I’ve seen a few studies that suggest that AA has no success rate. I have yet to see a legit study that proves that the 12 Steps work.
Besides, they think of Sub users as junkies. Who wants to go if we aren’t "clean?"
