Author: tearj3rker
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:11 am
| Ironic wrote: |
| "But, this raises the question: "Does NA have the right to limit members participation in meetings?" We believe so. While some groups choose to allow such members to share, it is also a common practice for NA groups to encourage these members (or any other addict who is still using), to participate only by listening and by talking with members after the meeting or during the break. This is not meant to alienate or embarrass; this is meant only to preserve an atmosphere of recovery in our meetings." |
You will notice that it says "While some groups choose to allow such members to share."
| Ironic wrote: |
| EDIT: I am gonna add that we probably are not "clean." I say this because the term "clean" is a very NA word. We are all sober. Look up sober in the dictionary, and you will see how AA/NA has corrupted that word and changed the definition to fit their own insanity. There is no such thing as a "dry drunk." That doesn’t make sense; one is either sober, or they aren’t.
So who cares if we are "clean?" That is a subjective NA term and it means NOTHING to anyone in the real world. |
I just need to clarify something here. By your definition, you believe people on Suboxone aren’t clean. So you don’t see yourself as being clean.
By my definition, I believe I am clean, and that anyone who doesn’t abuse drugs is clean. As far as I know, by my definition, you are clean too! We each have our own personal definitions of what is clean, and what is not. When you say "we probably are not clean", that is by your definition, and ultimately only applies to your personal recovery, and your view of yourself.
