Author: Caboose128
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:18 am
Alrighty, sorry for the long delay but I went on vacation for spring break. Had my appointment before that but was too lazy to post an update, probably should of considering how hazy my memory is.
Basically, he said his claims were mostly based upon speculation between him and his colleagues (probably other sub docs) findings. I forgot the word he used for it, but there was a certain word, that it was based on _______, whatever word goes in that blank.
But anyways, this is somewhat good and bad to hear. Good because no long term studies have actually proven we’re damaged for life, but also bad because some doctors believe in that, and just the fact that no long term studies have been done yet. I mean come on, in this has been out over 10 years shouldn’t there at least be a 10 year long study? It’s all about thinking ahead, especially with dangerous chemicals like this, it shouldn’t be something to take lightly. Patient safeness should always go first.
Regarding the sleep paralysis issue from earlier in the topic, I too have experienced this since been on Suboxone. Its different than a lucid dream as I used to have those as a kid. I just watched a video a couple days ago about how to achieve this state, because unlike you guys, I LOVED what I could do during this state and would love to achieve it again.
A lucid dream is when your already deep in sleep, having a normal dream, and somewhere during that dream you notice that your actually in a dream. You can then proceed to do whatever you want. What these are called would be sleep paralysis, or OBE, out of body experiences. They happen as you are falling into the dream state. What happens when you sleep is that right before you fall asleep your mind goes into a little safe zone, and your connection to your bodies movements are shut down. Usually we are almost completely unconscious during this state and we don’t notice it. However, there is the phenomenon where you start to notice your body is being shut down, and continues to do so, and if you are able to stay calm, your mind stays active. It is actually a form of meditation. I was experiencing this randomly since being on Suboxone, usually right after I got into bed, it would be a short 1 minute dream then I’d wake up.
But then, I ended up taking Ambien one night for sleep since I had taken my ADD meds. Somewhere during that weird night this happened to me. You actually feel your body being gradually shut down, like a blanket slowly being pulled over you from the bottom up. After I got put in this state of paralysis, if I was able to stay calm and VISUALIZE something, it would turn into a dream and I could go exploring. This is amazingly fun and can be very insightful. I had about 8 or so of these dreams in that night, each time waking up, realizing what had happened, and then within 2 minutes having the process repeat itself all over again.
Many people report having strange dreams on ambien and this is probably what they are talking about. It just amazes me that theres a drug out there that can increase your chances of having an OBE or lucid dream.
Since that Ambien night I have had this happen to me once, in probably the last 2 or 3 months. I felt my body shut down, was stuck in this state where all I could see is blackness yet my body can’t move, could not calm my mind down enough to just relax and try to dream, and then suddenly I woke up and broke the trance.
Many people try to achieve this state through heavy meditation or with the help of binaurual beats. I have found all of these things helpful to my life and even my overall treatment in the past few months.
Check it out.