Author: Redemption
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:24 pm
Yeah I know everybody complains of PAWS and even people who have done a slow long taper jumping from tiny crumbs feel the PAWS are so gruelling and long drawn out. Some even are suicidle which is worrying..First I thought a long slow taper can minimise PAWS but the more I read the more I realise PAWS will always be there post-sub regardless of how you taper, hell some even claim tapering for them makes no difference whatsoever, and they will get still get long drawn PAWS/exhulurating depression. I know it’s obvious the longer one has been on sub the longer the PAWS and the longer one will take to recover. I believe this is related to the half life, the more you put sub in to your system the more your adding it..It is logical though because the half life is the same for every dose, any dose u tak daily your adding the half life, even when your tapering down your still putting sub in your system and adding the half life hence why long PAWS and withdrawals..
I have never known anybody to be on subs for over 4 years and get of and stay clean. At least your 1 person I know through the net. I hope when you jump off the Klonopins it won’t be so gruelling for you..I think the PAWS maybe just starting now for you so I hope you Win the fight. Its just that everybody I have met outside the net who have taken subs for 3 to 6 years have either relapsed because of depression related to sub detox and paws/withdrawals or because they cannot taper and are still on it…
It will be hard I know that so be prepared..It begins here..I know because 6 people said their PAWS and extreme depression started at the 3-5 month mark when sub is still leaving the system and their symptoms were still existence even after 1 year 6 months hence why they relapsed or went back to subs..They tried everything from 10 different anti-deprresants to differnce benzodiahines and nothing worked..Symptoms related to buprenorphine are not healed by other meds.. Some even tried low dose naltrexone but didnt work..Now Ibogaine is a murky area. Thats what am planning, some say your worse off post-Iboga if you took it for subs yet some say they never suffered any withdrawals/PAWS, I dont know man but wil see what happens
I cannot go through months and years of PAWS/extreme very bad depression and insomnia..So will see what happens…I may even transfer to Methadone as some say thats much more doable then Buprenorphine, also it will be easier for Ibogaine to do it’s job..
